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[applause] >> and now, "bbc world ns." laura: this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. the secretary of homelandcu ty is on her way out, but she is not the only one the white house is showing the door. britain's prime minister has four days to find a way to sto the u.k. leaving the eu without a deal. toxic going into overdrive. that --talks are going into overdrive. ♪ laura: plus, a beatles clip you have never seen before turns out in mexico. fans and experts>>re delighted. he idea that there is more out there is amazing, really.
no other word for it. laura: welcome to our viewers on evision in america and around the globe. the departure lounge is getting mighty crowded at the white house, with the homelandre security sry pushed out on and word that the secret sunday service director was being excrsed as well. en nielsen resigned her post amid reports that president trump was fuming over her failure to stop migrants from entering the u.s. for exit is the latest in a white house knowturnover, and comes as the president is pushing even harder for border wcurity. kirstjen nielsenas the face of the trump administration's get-tough proach to immigration, but that was not enough to save her job. the president forced her out along with numerous other top officials in the department.
in public she is staying loyal. the nielsen: i share president's goal of securing the border. i continue to support alre efforts to a the humanitarian and security crisis at the border. laura: thousands of migrants tried to cross the borderry in febrand 11-year high. the president blamed ms. nielsen for failing to combat the flowom of families entral america, and when he wanted to close the border with mexico, she reportedly pushed back in private. ms. nieln did oversee the controversial policy separating migrant children from their families. the trump administration backtracked after an outcry, and nielsen was forced to defend her actions in front of congress. >> you knethat policy was going to result in children having to be taken away from their parents. that is a policy. you should admit it. sec. nielsen: the consequence of any adult going to jail in this country is that they are separated from their child. laura: in more drama, the president is also firing the
director of the secret service. it amounts to a purge of senior managerse department of homeland security. the acting head is kevin mcaleenan. his task is to please the president by deterring migrants from coming into the u.s. was -- while staying within the law. for more i was joined by the former actg director of u.s. immigration and customs enforcement. the homeland security secretary is out. the head of the secret service has been fir. have you ever seen this much turmoil in the department that is dedicated to looking after our security? >> no, i haven't, and i think more people might be getting fired as well, it sounds like. it is an inopportune time. we are dealing with an unprecedented crisis at the southern border. ua is not just the termination of these indiv, especiallyse thetary, but the manner in which it was done, the chaotic manner, unexpectedly -- really has a destabilizing impact on the department as a whole and it cannot be a more critil time
than right now when we are dealing with a crisis. laura: talking aboin the destabilimpact as a whole, what does it do to staff morale? >> it hurts morale and it leads hethem to question whether immediate supervisors are going to be there the next day. it makes it hard for the acting leaders put in place to implement long-term policies because now their position is viewed as tenuous at best. laura: the president is talking about wanting a ugher approach at the border, but what does thatvelook like, given the constraints of asylum law and international obligations? >> the president has consistently refused to organize -- recognize the legal framework in the united states and is refusing on enforce laws he books. the white house has beenth clea, want congress to eliminate those laws. but any pragmatist who's been in washington for some time knows that this congress is not going to change those laws. the president will double down on this deterrence-based strategy that has beely ineffective -- detentions, and frighteningly so, family
separation, renewing that policy. those licies, since he has implemented them, all we have seen is an escalation of the numbers. that is a failure to recognize the reality the situation and enforce the laws on the books. laura: in your view, what would work, more immigration judges? >> that is exactly what we need. under currentawwhen individual puts two feet on americaney soil annot be , deported to their home country unless and until they have a hearing before an immigration judge. we have never had enough judgesv the last years and in particular in the last couple of months. we have had a massive surge in the number of people.we eed more judges. this administration, the president on multiple occasions says he opposes hiring judges. when you don't have enough judges, people will stay in the tiunited states for years they have their hearing. when they are not sent back home, it encourages more people to come. i'm not an advocate of a deterrence-best strategy in an of itself. this is a more complicated problem. plbut you have to return pto stop future people from coming. laa: the president does se
to be flirting with the idea of going back to the policy of separatinghildren from their parents as a deterrent. is tre anyway that could be legal and work? itcourts have already found unlawful, not onl was the policy cruel, the way it was in --ed implemeas disastrous. listen, i can only be optimistic that they are not going to do it. the evidence does not suggest that it was in any way aected -- effective in terms of deterring people from coming. laura: thank you for joining us. >> thank you. laura: with just four days to go until the next brexit deadline, thesalks in the u.k. and acr europe are stepping up. the government is meeting the opposition, b jeremy corbyn says mrs. may's redlines have not changed. the prime minister wt down with the german chancellor and the french president tomorrow ahead of a vital european summit wednesday, where anothe delay to the departure date will be discussed. our political editor laura kuenssberg has the latest.
laura k.: a mood for comprise might just trickle through. somber and slow after all the shouting. could the government really do a deal with the other side? ha >> we don' a majority in parliament, and so we have to look to other parties to seek agreement that would allow us to get brexit over the line inme parl as the law requires.o you cannotto any of those discussions with big red lines, because otherwise ther is no point having them. laura k.: given that the prime minister has tried to hang onto them for so long, the man who wants to replace her in number 10 might take convincing. the latest offer to the labour tribe welcoming a new mp today has not accept jeremy corbyn's plan for a customs union, a closer trading relationship with y hasu than theresa negotiated. what sources who have seen the document say it points to that sort of deal being possible avt only in the future.
>> talksto mean movement, and so far there's been no change in the red lines. laura k.: but if rushing to as customal with labor makes sense now, why has theresa may f avoided it so long? the answer is in the reluctance on her o side. she always promised she would not take that step. can she win the cabinet around now? trade secretary liam fox is not the only one who would say no. even though as ever, there are other members the government who completely disagree. where are you onhe customs union? we tried many doors to find a way out of this. the talks between the tories and labour are genuine. both sides want to know if the n find a deal together to get through that.th bu wonder separately if the other side is serious. and they are a long way from a
full-blown partnership. these are nervous first dates between the two. again this week, eu leaders will discuss delay. >> we are open to extending the tdeadline to allow time fse discussions to run their course and come to a conclusion. ♪ laura k.: ere is a tiny chance this week the whole process could explode. but while laur and the tories are still talking, the show is just about still on e road. laura kuenssberg, bbc ne westminster. laura t.: no clarity from brexit. in other news from around the world, in sudan, protesters held tmonstrations in front ofhe rfense ministry in khartoum for the third day in aow calling for the resignation of president omar al-bashir. securi to disperse protesters, while some elements of the military
acted to protect demonstrators. actress felicity huffman and 13 other people have agreed to plead guilty to taking part in thcollege admissions scam. they are among 50 people accused by prosecutors in boston of takingart in schemes like cheating on entrance exams and paying bribes to get their children admted to well-known universities. israeli voters go to the polls tomorrow after a campaign which has seenhe longtime prime minister benjamin netanyahu fighting for his political survival. he is facing criminal corruption charges and his toughest challenge in years from a former israeli military chief, benny gantz. the bbc's yolande knell reports. conflictolence and are never far away in israel. that is whelections here are fought and won on security. up went the explosives. yolande: roberts family home was
destroyed two weeks ago why a powerful rocket fired by palestinian militants in gaza. nobody was killed, b his baby granddaughter was among those hurt. >> we are very lucky family. awe a alive. there are seven grace of the road. >>de we need a lwho is brave enough to bring peace. yolande: a close campaign waged with the social-media videos, benjamin netanyahu argues that his global ventures protect israel. he is facing bribery charges, which he denies. is main rival, benny gantz, a former head of the israeli military, pledging to clean up politics. but when it comes t divisions wi palestinians, neither candidate is committed to them having their own state. elections,raeli internationally approved ideas about how to reach peace with the pastinians are being abandoned. and while that could win votes
the danger is that it would deepen tensions and mistrust and onlywh perpetuat has already been a long and painfulli confct. standing up to the israeli occupation has become part of life for the boys ofto this elem school. -- elementary school. gas during morning assembly, after children threw stones at an israeli checkpoint nearby. four students were taken to hospital, and all later recovered. the voteans don'tet g in israel he pulls. the teacher says they feel the impact of the outcome. >> we as palestinians don't care about israeli elections or who will bome the prime minister, because each one is worse than the last.
there is nothing new, just empty promises, lies. israel'swhoever is next leader faces the cnullenge of cong unrest and a stalled peace process. this election could bring a change of face rather than direction. yolande knell, bbc news, rusalem. laur today the trump administration designated the iran revolutionary guard corps a terrorist organization. is an unpleasant and move against another country's military. the president says it is sending a clear sign to other nations thinking of condwiting business the irgc. iran has one it will take action.al among those behind the announcement was the presidentof policy planning at the state government.e c's katty kay spoke to him earlier. katty: the statement suggests that the aim is to squeeze the revolutionary guard financially. i'm wondering what the long-term goal is of the united states is
with the desigtion. is it to get rid of the revolutionary guard completely, some kind of regime change in tehran? >> it's simply to deny the regime the revenue it needs to conduct its expansionist and a violent foreign policy. since 2007, this regs cceeded in expanding its footprint from lebanon, iraq, syria, bahrain. we need to be doing everything we can to weaken the regime and the irgc. it is very hard to imagine a peaceful and stae middle east without weakening the irgc and the quds force, which for many decades has been the implement of iran's foreign policy.tt specifically it is targeted at european entities which may still be doing business with iran or the irgc? brian: we are not targeting european entities, and in fact, from the time we announced we iare leaving the iran deal, we have seen only come and
support from european ies. we are driving up the cost of doing business with the irgc. the gc controls of two or mo -- up to or more than half of iran'economy. that money finds its way onto the battlefield and syria, to lebanese hezbollah, it finds its way to shia militias, ds its way to the houthis. in addition to criminal liability, there is the reputational risk of doing business in iran. onkatty: there is concern intelligence agencies and the military that there could be me form of retaliation from iran against u.s. interests in the region. what are you doing to prepare for that possibility brian: first, iran promises retaation every time the united states does something to try to curb their aggressio if we were to guide our foreign policy by iranian threats, we would be playing under house rules, and a house always wins when you play under house rules. g katty: there's nothecific u are concerned about wi
this particular designation? brian: that is what i was quite you, thatng to tell the entire national security cabinet was involvede nd this was rk of many months and we put in place any preparations necessary as a consequence of this. this is new in some ways. but the irgc was designated byth obama administration under treasury authorities. today in this administration we are dog it under state partment authorities, and this action has enjoyed bipartisan support for many years. in 2007, there was a bill that hae72 cosponsors in the sen to do exactly what we did and then-senator barack obama and hillary clinton. hook, thank you for joining me. laura: you are watching "bbc world news ameri still to come on tonight's program, the demratic presidential field is growing by the day, but could there be too many choices?
in just three days in90 india million people will head to the polls to take part in the largest democratic process in e world. in 2014, prime minister narendra modi won a landslide victory, and he has dominated indian politics since. ,eporter: colossal, colorful and often unpredictable. about 900 million people are heading to the polls, more than the whole of europe put together. it is an electiotoso big, it has e organized in seven phases over five weeks across 29 states. every number to do with this is vast. a million polling stations, 10 million eltions that, half a million police and security, 700
registered polical parties, a dozen candidates, candidates, 15 million voters. logistical challenges are just as massive. every form of transport is used to carry electronic voting machines to theib most inacce regions. in 24, never polling stations 15,000 feet above sea level in the himalayas, and one for a solitary hermit deep in the jungles of western india. for all the complexity, though, there is a simplicity. get one more vote th your opponents, and you win the sea. 543 seats are up for grabs. each seat allocated a number in proportion to its population. s 272agic number get past that and you have an ight majority. fall short, and it is time for coalition building. when you put it like that, it
unds simple. it is anything but. laura: choice is good, we are told, but when it comes to the president,ying to be could the big field be a bad thing? there are 16 hopefuls in the race, with more names out there. in a field that crowded, how do you stand out? that is a topic a professor of behavioral science wrote about, and she joined me earlier. what is the downside of the democratic race for the whit house being as crowded as a supermarket cereal aisle, as you put it? >> yes, i did. as i say, it is not a race, it is a lollapalooza. there is tremendous downside when you face to many options. the way our brains work is when we see such a crowded field of something like a primarypa
presidential cn race, and on top of that, it is a tough decision to make, it is a complex decision to make, it is something that people don't necessarily want to put a tremendous amount of effort into, our brains will use tips and tricks developed by many years of evolution. it inot necessarily what is going to result in the strongest candidate to go against trump in the next election. laura: does the choice overload, p you put it in yource help the bigger names like bernie sanders or joe biden if he runs? >> that is exactly right. what happens with our brains when we try to make a complex decision in a field with which we are not terribly familiar is that we are going to default to the familiar. it is something called mentalty availabi if i'm evaluating a risk-reward scenario, like how risky it is to put up one candidate vs. another, i will go with the person i am most familiar with. we saw this benefit trump and -- a huge amount when we saw
similarly crowded fields for the last g primary. laura: what does behavioral science tell the candidates they should do in order to stand out in this veryrowded field? >> that is a great question. this is advice particularly targeted to those o are already polling below the margin of error, the people whore necessarily qualified candidates but are having a hard time breaking through. one of the things i suggest ich is not necessarily from behavioral science, but behavioral science certainly supports it, pr 101, keep the message clear, keep it consistent, and put it in terms of people can understand. m our brains ah more adept to feeling the pain of a loss other than experiencing the joy of a gain. if you are talking about tax reform, don't tell me how much it is going to save me, but tell me how much i'm going to lose if i stick with the current plan. laura: whi of those lesser-known democratic candidates that you have been tracking idoing a decent job
of trying to stand out? lilly: that is areat question. so far not a ton of them. i think at this point also -- we are so early on that everybody speaking to the pr bo-- eve is sticking to the pr basics rather than tapping into something like behavioral science. anybody that iputting figures terms of the monthly rather ovthan annualizing i a year, that is good advice. doing things like having a consistent platform to stickbe behind, whicie was good at last election and something that biden has not shown gt this point nted, he has not formally announced his candidacy --doing things like that. a: thank you so much for joining us. lilly: thank you for having me. laura: if you are my age, the beatles are part of your cultural dna. imagine the delight of fans with the discovery of footage of them performing. it was found in mexico, of all
places. reporterbeatles rehearsing for their only-ever live "top of the pops" appearance. back in 1966, bbc shows were recorded on videotape, very expensive at the time, so wiped after a couple of weeks and f thought lostever. until now. fab fr, ar - the fab find -- 11 seconds of "paperback writer" unearthed in mexico. kaleidoscope specializes in trking down missing tv. a mexico fan got in touch after buying film reel from a liverpudlian family. >> if you are a beatles fan from it is a holy grail. the beatles only did "top of the pops" once live. to think that somebody in the liverpool was filminoff the telly in 1966 and to find it s ain after all those years later wastunning. reporter: at the beatles story exhibition, we showed the find
to an expert. >> that is really crazy that nobody else has seen that. reporter: how important a discovery is this? >> we have loads of audiovisual artifacts that we can study for . the idea that there are more out there is absolutely am really. no other word for it. rerter: and it is not just beatles footage which has been rediscovered. more tha240 lost "top of the pops" performances saved thanks ho a fan of the show recorded them at home. >> ♪ rocket man >> hello, i'm in bangor, north awales, makin test recording in september 1976. reporter: the new discoveries foincluding t. rex ping "metal guru" will be featured later this month. colin patterson, bbc news. beat theu ca't
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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newsrsur tonight, en nielsen is out as secretary o homeland security. what this means for the department and the trump administration's actions on immigration. then, we are on the ground in israel, as prime minister benjamin netanyahu seeks a record fifth term in the face of legal troubles. and, one of america's leading historians, robert caro, on the four decades of work he's done on the multi-volume biography "the years of lyndon johnson." >> you know, when i was a newspaper man, i remember i hao ted havingite an article while there was still questions i wanted to ask. when i started to do books, i just started to say, i don't